May 14, 2008

Scare Beast follow-up

This was posted earlier, by Drysc, in regards to why the instant Scare Beast didn’t make it to live servers, as a follow-up to what Eyonix has already said:

The instant cast was felt to just be too effective against feral druids, and so the previous cast time reduction to 'instant’ was reverted through a hotfix back to 1.5 sec. If we had made the change through the patch instead of a hotfix it would have required a new build to be generated, additional testing on that build, and likely a week long delay for the release of this patch. The downside when hotfixing an ability is that the tool tip won’t be updated to correctly display any changes made to the ability.

May 13, 2008

Just stick to the cards sir

2.4.2 went in today. We’ve been over these changes but I’ll re-list the hunter important stuff.

  • Aspect of the Viper: This ability now grants an additional amount of mana each 5 seconds equal to 35% of the hunter’s level.
  • Boar Charge: This ability will no longer make Growl cast immediately after it generates excessive threat.
  • The pet ability Growl will no longer scale with pet Attack Power and now scales with the hunter’s Attack Power.
  • Dire Ravens in Blade’s Edge Mountains are now tameable.
  • Scare Beast: The range on this spell has been increased to 30 yards.
  • Tamed Drywallow Snappers now will know Bite 5 (instead of Claw 5).
  • Bow of Searing Arrows and Red Whelp Gloves will no longer break crowd control effects.
  • Darkmoon Card: Madness: The durations of the buffs received from this item have been extended to 60 seconds.
  • Elixir of Demonslaying: This elixir now grants ranged attack power against demons as intended.
  • Shattered Sun Pendant of Might: The triggered effect from this item will no longer break Scatter Shot or other crowd-controlling affects. The visual on the Scryer version has been updated.
  • The Cursed Vision of Sargeras now gives the buff, “Sense Demons” which can be canceled normally. Additionally hunters and druids are able to track two things at once while using the item.

The instant cast change to Scare Beast did not make it to live servers, despite the tooltip being changed (it is still 1.5 cast time). When asked why this change didn’t make it live, Eyonix replied:

On live realms the ability was never instant cast. The ability now has a 30 yard range on live (patch 2.4.2), which is a small improvement (buff).

While some hunters may be disappointed that they weren’t getting the buff to the ability that they anticipated, it’s certainly not a nerf. The instant cast change, was simply too strong and as a result, pulled at the very last moment.

PS We love you Hunters. :P

Edit: Neth does not love you and all hate should be directed at her!

And, I knew we hadn’t heard the last about the Growl issue. Despite previous threads being locked regarding it, it still isn’t 100% correct on live servers post patch, according to Hortus:

There is still a bug with Growl that is allowing it to scale with some pet attack power buffs as well as the hunter’s attack power. This will be fixed in a future patch, until then enjoy the extra threat from these buffs.

And followed up with:

As I have stated many times before Growl scales correctly with Hunter attack power. It has been verified with internal tools multiple times buy myself and other testers both in 2.4.2 and 2.4.1. It may not scale at a rate that you like but it does scale at the rate the developers currently want (and no I can not reveal that rate).

If you feel it should scale differently then you will need to post about it in the suggestions or class forums. Repeatedly posting about it here in this forum will not result in any positive changes but it will result in your posting privileges being removed.

Right now Growl is ALSO scaling inappropriately with attack power buffs applied to your pet (such as Blessing of Might) this is a bug that is currently in your favor, it will likely be fixed in a future patch so enjoy it while you can.

April 30, 2008

Mrr Grr

It’s been sort of interesting watching the Growl discussion unfold on the Test realm message board. There’s been some good information put out there by external testers (IE, hunters like you and I) but for now, the discussion seems to have been closed as one of the relevant threads has been locked after being posted in by Hortus:

There was not a change to the way Growl scales with hunter AP, the bug fix eliminated growl scaling with the pet’s attack power.

Growl has always scaled with hunter attack power in exactly the same way as it does in 2.4.2, there were no changes. I have verified multiple times that growl threat does scale with hunter AP AND that it is doing so in the same way in 2.4.1 and 2.4.2.

I’m sorry if you were given the impression that this was a new feature.

Which was followed by more posts and then the thread was locked, with this parting comment:

This is the last post I will be making about pet threat, no matter what I say I’m accused of lying or being wrong. Right now as of 2.4.2 growl is creating the intended amount of threat and is scaling with hunter attack power at an intended rate. If you do not agree with this then please post your opinions in the appropriate forums (suggestions or class forums).

As this is not considered a bug no amount of posting here or in the bug report forums will get it changed.

I don’t know though, not sure we should give up on this subject QUITE yet. That said, they have requested some focus testing:

We would like to request some focused testing on a bug that we believe to be fixed in 2.4.2.

Using a macro with several instant cast spells can break targeting and the Escape key. This is most often reported as happening with hunter kill command macros.

Please test your macros and report here if you encounter any of these UI lock-ups.

April 25, 2008

Test additions

Here are some more additions to the 2.4.2 patch notes. The change to Viper is now 'officially’ listed:

  • Aspect of the Viper: This ability now grants an additional amount of mana each 5 seconds equal to 35% of the hunter’s level.
  • Boar Charge: This ability will no longer make Growl cast immediately after it generates excessive threat.
  • Scare Beast: The range on this spell has been increased to 30 yards and it is now instant cast.
  • Elixir of Demonslaying: This elixir now grants ranged attack power against demons as intended.
  • Shattered Sun Pendant of Might: The triggered effect from this item will no longer break Scatter Shot or other crowd-controlling affects. The visual on the Scryer version has been updated.

April 24, 2008

Dire Ravens

The newly tameable Dire Ravens (Level 67-68) in Blade’s Edge are classed as Carrion Birds and upon taming know Dive 3 and Screech 5. Remember, this is on Test only, for now – you won’t be able to tame them on live servers until 2.4.2.

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